Dan ([info]blackfrost) wrote,
@ 2008-11-18 16:02:00
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My take on Ashley Madison
After giving it some thought, I've come to some conclusions about the marital affair "dating" service known as Ashley Madison.

The very idea of the site isn't as bad as I initially thought. Granted, encouraging lies and deciet and in some cases like MA, illegal activity, is abhorrent. However, in terms of a business venture, I can't see how what they're doing is any different than what some other companies profit from. Pharmaceutical companies profit from sickness and suffering. Defense contractors profit from wars. Evangelists profit from faith and religion. How does Ashley Madison fit into the grand scheme of shady business models? There are too many variables, but I can't put them even close to the top.

The site advertises exploring extramarital affairs if you are living a life "of quiet despair". If that is even remotely true, then people should consider moving on to someone else. It's my opionion that personal happiness is more important than simply upholding the sanctity of a marraige. If you're miserable, I think its within your rights to call it quits.

Where A.M. bothers me, is in its wording. They seem to make you want to believe that an affair is something that is "not to be missed", and life's too short to not have one. The problem there, is that it can persuade and attract those who are currently in happy relationships to explore this idea. It takes a certain type of person, but advestising is a powerful tool. If you get it in someone's head that affairs are a social norm, then a surprisingly high amount of people would probably contemplate acting on this newly discovered void in their life.

"I didn't know I should be doing this! I hope I'm not missing out on something cool!"

That's the dangerous type of mindset that I think A.M. may be unintentionally (or intentionally) fostering.
Manipulating people into thinking that Pepsi is a better drink than Coke through advertising doesn't involve personal character dilemmas, life-changing consequences, lawyers, or anything like that. If A.M. seeked to help people realize they're not trapped in a loveless marriage, and helps them take the first step into rectifying that...I think I wouldn't have a problem with it. But as it stands, it glorifies and encourages people to test their own moral standards in a deceitful and malicious way.

I simply cannot accept that.



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[info]blackfrost
2008-11-19 03:56 am UTC (link)
To reiterate, I never condoned adultery. I just think A.M. is not as bad as what some other businesses profit from. I did however point out that I feel people have a right to personal happiness and should never feel trapped in wedlock. "calling it quits" is different than having an affair.

I'll respectfully disagree with you, as someone who works in public health, with the pharma companies analogy.

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[info]zoarpirate
2008-11-19 12:57 pm UTC (link)
I know that you're not condoning adultery!

The reason I don't like the pharma comparison is AM's business model is singular - to maximize the number of people committing adultery by increasing the ease and pleasure and minimizing the risk.

That would be like saying that a pharma's singular goal is to maximize the number of people who contract curable communicable diseases.

As an aside (and not argumentatively - just out of legit curiosity!) - how is pharma promoting bad health? I can imagine some responses - encouraging over diagnosis, slowing down generic speed to market, etc, but I'm curious as to your take.

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[info]blackfrost
2008-11-19 04:53 pm UTC (link)
There is a alarming lack of R&D going into many prescription drugs, like opiods, to prevent long term addiction and side effects. Pharma companies are willfully not develping non habit-forming drugs when those with lower thresholds for abuse can make them more money.
It's a lot more complicated than that, but combating that trend is one of my companies largest projects.
There are more issues too, but not many i could just type up.

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[info]lordbrand
2008-11-20 03:34 am UTC (link)
I am woefully uninformed, but this makes sense. One thing to keep in mind that that basic business model of pharma is totally wild. HUGE R&D expenditures overall, all relying on patent law - almost solely - to support the huge front-end expenditure.

When you get big time from cash spent to cash in skews like that, it's ripe for corner-cutting. Add in the ever unpredictable FDA and patent process that can completely kill a whole drug family's chances at ever being profitable, the stakes run pretty high.

AM's stakes are the relative decline of American values and the happiness of current marriages. They're not the meth-dealer - they're a shaded window bus service from happy home life to Hell's kitchen.

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